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Post by McBain on Nov 24, 2008 17:39:51 GMT
Saw it for the first time the other day and having never read the book I don't know if it was faithful or not. Could any of you lovely people out there answer my simple question? Was the book full of just as much innuendo? Seriously, first Susan has the horn, then Prince Caspian has the horn. Then later Prince Caspian's trying to give Susan the horn.
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Post by Starlong on Nov 24, 2008 19:30:41 GMT
It's actually been a while since I read the book but I'm fairly certain that the film covered the first half of the book in around 20 minutes. As shockingly terrible as this may seem, as I remember it the first half of Prince Caspian (the book) was slow. So much time with some stuff happening, then some people arriving and taking a long time to come to what to me as an 11 year old was an obvious conclusion about something. Then they meet someone else casually and have a friendly talk recaping tonnes of other stuff that has happened they finally go venturing for a few chapters and meet up with the rest of the crew and things go from there. The fact that the film visually paraphrased all this didn't bother me at all, and I think it went in a very different direction than the book, creating more tension between main chractors, adding in the some but not all mentions of your liitle horn up there, and generally depicting the battles in suitably epic fashion, something that I never got from the books. Like I said, it's been a while since I read the book but unless theres some really good aspect to it that I've forgoten I'd say that the film was better. Then again, by going on such an old memory I could be completely wrong, and I know of some dude... Some guy even who'd probably love the chance to get me back.
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Post by Miss O'Jenny on Nov 24, 2008 21:13:27 GMT
There was not as much innuendo in the first one because Prince Caspian was a young teenage boy, and Susan was quite a lot older than him.
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Post by Someguy on Nov 24, 2008 22:51:26 GMT
Jammy git.
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Post by Fire Bear on Nov 25, 2008 10:08:13 GMT
I personally think they should have started making the films from the start, cause some people (kids, mainly, but other people who may not have read the books) may get confused if they do eventually make "The Magician's Nephew" and "The Horse and his Boy", since then they'll be in the wrong order!!
It does take forever to get into it in the book but they managed to miss out my favourite bit and what I think is pivotal to the book. OK. Not pivotal. I just think of another word for it at the moment. I AM TIRED!!
Anyway, they missed out the bit where Edmund is the second person to see Aslan. I thought that was very sweet, since he had been so horrible two books before.
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Post by mojojojoe on Nov 25, 2008 12:15:52 GMT
I think that they're making the films in the publishing order. The Magician's Nephew may have been the birth of Narnia but it wasn't published until much later in the series. I think the Horse and his Boy came fourth? I'm pretty sure it was after the Voyage of the Dawn Treader.
But Narnia? Blerghhh. Nothing but Christian propaganda and ill-hidden racist themes. C.S.Lewis was a jerk in real life.
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Post by kitty on Nov 26, 2008 13:18:15 GMT
They are making them in the publishing order. I'd imagine because more people know the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe than the rest of them. I adored that book as a kid and never ever noticed any Christian subtext until someone pointed out to me that it was all about Jesus. Some of the series is good but I was ridiculously upset with how he treated Susan. How dare she grow up!
Peter Pan is better. Least if you grow up there you just have to suffer being boring and grown up.
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Post by McBain on Nov 26, 2008 14:08:35 GMT
Neverland's not all it's cracked up to be, I grew up near there. Maybe it was nicer back in J. M. Barrie's day, but it's an absolute dump these days.
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Post by Someguy on Nov 26, 2008 15:14:50 GMT
Mm. We have Michael Jackson to thank for that. Welcome to Neverland, where the children never grow up to relate their horrific sexual abuse to the proper authorities.
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Post by kitty on Nov 26, 2008 15:20:31 GMT
You guys, don't ruin my childhood.
Those places don't exist.
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Post by McBain on Nov 26, 2008 23:13:20 GMT
I wasn't being twisted, I was just being sincere. Barrie spent his childhood playing on the banks of the river Nith, in my home town of Dumfries. It may have been Neverland for him back then, but it's seriously went downhill.
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Post by kitty on Nov 27, 2008 10:30:54 GMT
More directed at Stewart than you.
I always figured it more of a London thing. That being where Peter lives for a while and the fairies live and all. And where Barrie met the children he wrote it for. I remember watching this weird documentary thing about him and how he was so messed up in the head because of his dad or something and all these questions about molestation and then it ended with 'but he most likely didn't do anything because of all the accounts of how non-creepy he was'. It was the most pointless thing that seemed to just want to tie in all Neverlands and upset parents.
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Post by Someguy on Nov 27, 2008 11:26:43 GMT
That's people for you. Most of them are just determined to see the worst in everything.
Also, I'm basing a book in London now. I'm going to have to pick Dave's brain at some point or read a morbid book set in London. Any suggerstions?
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Post by Fire Bear on Nov 27, 2008 12:57:58 GMT
Never read anything set in London, that I can remember... except for the Ally's World series.
But I don't think that'll help you...
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Post by mojojojoe on Nov 27, 2008 14:38:46 GMT
Crimson Petal and the White (i think). Jekyll and Hyde. Pullman's Sally Lockhart series. Those are all set in Victorian London but I don't think the city has changed that much.
Oh! Gaiman wrote a book based kinda in London. It was his first one. Neverwhere I think.
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